Saturday, March 13, 2010

Interview - March 13

Thanks to everyone who called in for the interview today with Emil Franzi and KVOI - "Voices Of The West."
I appreciate the support from folks in Tucson and Arizona for all their interest. I appreciate the calls "on show," and
welcome questions via skyminder.eagan805@gmail.com.

Suggested By Readers

These books have been suggested today, by readers:
Pathfinder
The People Called Apache by Thomas Mails Apache Medicine Men by John Bourke.
By Friend Roger H: http://www.amazon.com/Scalp-Dance-Indian-Warfare-1865-1879/dp/0811729079/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268519379&sr=8-1-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Fate-Worse-Than-Death-Captivities/dp/0870044516/ref=pd_sim_b_2

Emil Franzi's "Voices Of The West" - Book List

For those of you who might listen to today's interview with "Voices Of The West" host, Emil Franzi, this is Emil's book list. I think it's always important to remember that those of us who are writers or readers of historic works, have a line of departure that often depends on where we live, the local personalities or groups who lived where we live, and aspects of "specialization" that represents the particular subject matter we hold.

What I know of Emil is that he is also interested in "things Western." Emil is a specialist on Western movies and I don't hold a candle next to him. I really don't have the same interest in Western films he has, but like hearing about them. Emil is a true expert not only on films, but also, the Western sagas that are very important to Arizona history.

My friend, documentary film-maker, Brian Huberman, is an authority of western genre ... books but most importantly, films. On the other hand, he has a different slant, I guess, on western films. Yesterday, in speaking with Brian about what we plan on doing in May, to "Hike Apacheria," we latched onto the actual transcription of notes made by Captain Bourke, General Crook's ablest aide-de-camp. We discussed who was present at the famous "surrender" of Geronimo, @ Cañon de los Embudos.

Captain Bourke's notes detail who was present during the two day discussion of details of Geronimo's surrender. General Crook actually utilized three separate translators, for the Apache>>Spanish>>English, English>>Spanish>>Apache translations. Geronimo insisted that Mickey Free, who was present at these discussions, NOT be allowed to serve as a translator. Geronimo felt Mickey Free was an inveterate liar, and was concerned Free would translate false statements to General Crook.

General Crook was focused on the best translation possible, for posterity's sake.

Also, in addition to Mickey Free as someone who could translate Apache, was the infamous cowboy>>cattle "enforcer" or "regulator" -- Tom Horn. I believe at the time, Tom Horn was "Chief Packer" for General Crook. However, Tom Horn spoke Apache pretty well. He was NOT, though, on the list of translators for this conference. Brian and I discussed the film, "Tom Horn," which featured Steve McQueen. There is evidence that Tom Horn had a very psychopathic or sociopathic personality, which caught up with him around the end of the 19th Century, in Wyoming. Steve McQueen's portrayal of Tom Horn was far more sympathetic than what I've read about Horn. I would have to say, regardless of whether Horn spoke Apache or not, he was a sociopathic killer @ the time he assassinated a young "sodbuster" kid there in Wyoming.

There is also the interesting fact that Mickey Free was allegedly the child stolen by Cochise, as accused by Lt. George Bascom. It was @ the "Cut Tent Affair," @ the Butterfield Stage Station in Apache Pass (soon to be the location of Ft. Bowie I & II) that Bascom demanded Cochise surrender the young lad abducted from a man named "Ward's" ranch in 1861. The Ward ranch was nearer Tubac and Ft. Buchanan. Ultimately, it was learned that Coyotero Apaches may have abducted young Felix Ward (a.k.a., Mickey Free) from his parents ranch.

And so, we have the incredible irony of Felix Ward, i.e., "Mickey Free," who was involved with the true beginning of
almost "endless war" between Chiricahua of Arizona & New Mexico, and the Americans, also being present at the surrender talks of Geronimo, in 1885. Free did not leave Arizona when the Apaches left, however. I can't say what did happen to him, but he passed out of the picture finally, when the Apaches left for Florida.

It's worth noting that one other name that comes up in the latter years of the Apache struggle, is George Wratten.
George Wratten ALSO was raised around Apaches, and was another fluent speaker of Apache. Wratten was so
connected with the Apaches, that he voluntarily went into exile with them in Florida. He stayed with those Apaches
into their arrival @ Ft. Sill. I believe he became a school administrator for the Lawton, OK, school system. He died in Oklahoma.

The Arizona Historical Society has an excellent collection of Wratten's photos and some notes written by his children, I believe. The phrase: "the webs we weave" is pretty interesting as regards these personalities.

**Recently, a great-great-great grandson of the Apache warrior, Perico, wrote me and said he'd book marked my web page and my articles. I felt that as a great honor, and hope to communicate with him more in the future. What a wonderful thing to ask Perico's great-great-great grandson, to tell me about the Geronimo final year, as Perico was among the last to surrender @ Skeleton Cañon, in New Mexico, 4 September, 1886.

APACHE AND RELATED BOOKS
Titles in Bold Italics are books we both have read.
Aleshire, Peter COCHISE
Aleshire, Peter THE FOX AND THE WHIRLWIND
Ball, Eve IN THE DAYS OF GERONIMO
Barnes, Will C. APACHES & LONGHORNS
Benton-Cohen, Katherine BORDERLINE AMERICANS
Browning, Sinclair ENJU Novel (1983)
Colwell-Chanthaphon, Chip MASSACRE AT CAMP GRANT
Comfort, Will Levington APACHE
Debo, Angie GERONIMO
Delay, Brian WAR OF A THOUSAND DESERTS
Faulk, Odie THE GERONIMO CAMPAIGN
Goodwin, Neil LIKE A BROTHER
Hamalainen, Pekka THE COMANCHE EMPIRE
Jacoby, Karl SHADOWS AT DAWN
Lockwood, Frank C. THE APACHE INDIANS
McMurtry, Larry OH WHAT A SLAUGHTER
Michno, Greg A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH Indian Captivities 1830-1885
Michno, Greg & Susan FORGOTTEN FIGHTS 1823-1890
Momaday, N. Scott THE MAN MADE OF WORDS
Olson, James R, ULZANA Novel (1973)
Robson, Lucia St. Clair GHOST WARRIOR Novel (1982)
Simmons, Marc MASSACRE ON THE LORDSBURG ROAD
Sladen, Jos Ed Sweeney MAKING PEACE WITH COCHISE
Stockel, H. Henrietta THE BLOODY ROAD TO JESUS
Sweeney, Edwin COCHISE
Sweeney, Edwin MERIJILDO GRIJALVA
Tevis, Jas. Ed. Barr & Kelly ARIZONA IN THE ‘50’S

Friday, March 12, 2010

Upcoming Article -- Desert Exposure

I wanted to place this copyrighted document that my friend, Sherry Robinson, author of the highly acclaimed "Apache Voices," wrote after I told her of the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) "flashback" I had in a local theater. The "occasion" or the "trigger" for my PTSD flashback, the worst I've ever had since the day I was shot, in Vietnam, was the film "Babel." The 2006 film, starring Brad Pitt, Cate Blanchett, and several others, had a scene that set me into a pass out experience, right there in the "Real West Cinema," in Silver City, New Mexico.
I want to say that the context of this event was the Iraq War, and my opposition to that war. The point was that cowards, like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, David Addington, Doug Feith, Steven Halperin, Karl Rove, et al, of that tremendously brave bunch of men in the Bush White House ... had sent our young men and women into a war that was totally needless. I wanted people to know that guys like those guys ... the "Bushistas," didn't learn the things we who were in Vietnam learned about carnage.
The carnage I saw, not only in Vietnam, but in Army hospitals for a year after I was wounded, left me more heavily damaged with PTSD than I ever would have guessed. So, after passing out in the "Real West Cinema," after viewing
the highly realistic scene in "Babel," Sherry took it from there. As a long time journalist who provides articles of interest to the @New Mexico News Services, 2007, Sherry has graciously allowed me to use the copy she wrote, with credit to
@New Mexico News Services, 2007.

© New Mexico News Services 2007

Sherry Robinson/ All She Wrote

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE THRU 2-12-07

For veterans, some scars aren’t visible

By Sherry Robinson

As the president was polishing his arguments for the troop “surge” in Iraq, my friend Jerry Eagan was lying on the floor of a theater in Silver City, losing consciousness.

Jerry and his wife had gone to see the movie “Babel.” The shooting of the female co-star was so realistic that it triggered a massive episode of post traumatic stress disorder for Jerry, who nearly lost his arm as a 19-year-old infantryman after a similar shooting.

“The images of the film were so strong as to remind me vividly that I was that person, nearly bleeding to death, with fellow soldiers slapping my face and challenging me to not pass out because you can actually die of such a shock,” he wrote to friends.

“I began to feel sick. Then I knew I was having a flashback from Vietnam. I apparently began or did pass out. People came to my aid, and before I knew it, I was on the floor of the theater, with several people assisting me. They called 911 and they got
there quickly and put some oxygen on me. By then I was drenched in sweat.”

Jerry left the theater when his blood pressure returned to normal, but he was drained. “Here’s the point: I was in Vietnam 41 years ago.” He worries about the new veterans returning with unseen wounds.

One in four veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan has been diagnosed with mental health problems, according to the New England Journal of Medicine. A congressional report says vets seeking treatment for PTSD and other mental-health issues doubled over nine months to 9,103 in June 2006.

Laura Berg, a mental-health nurse at the Albuquerque VA hospital, described her patients to New Mexico Press Women last year.

“Some are deeply, psychologically wounded. It’s hard to hear stories from young men coming back to families in rural New Mexico, who talk about being in convoys and having to run over women and children, about having to steel themselves and coming home and being unable to un-steel themselves. There is more trauma than the public is aware of.”

What about rural vets like Jerry who can’t just drive to Albuquerque every time they have a problem? Many don’t seek help because they’re embarrassed or discouraged by red tape, while others simply can’t get help. Sadly, the same people who would send our troops to war don’t support them when they come home.

Jerry was embarrassed by his theater episode, but he wants people to know what happened to him, especially those who support the proposed troop increase – people like Jerry’s congressman, Rep. Steve Pearce.

Pearce, a Vietnam veteran, has parroted the administration’s line about taking the fight to the terrorists. He’s insisted there was a solid connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, even though both the Senate and the CIA said there was no such tie. Pearce, who had a make-nice visit to Iraq in the balmy days of November 2003, show no penchant for independent thinking. His fellow Republican, Rep. Heather Wilson, does.

Early this month, Wilson returned from a trip to Iraq after first studying classified and unclassified documents and meeting with intelligence agencies and military people. On Jan. 8 Wilson, also a veteran, wrote the president that “the American military should only be used to protect America’s vital national interests.” Removing Saddam Hussein and addressing weapons of mass destruction were national interests; political goals are not, she wrote. “We cannot do for the Iraqis what they will not do for themselves.”

(For her report, see http://wilson.house.gov.)

Jerry believes that real support for troops is to not sacrifice their lives without good cause. “You have no idea what's in their heads when they come home. Or how long it stays there.”

Jerry's Apache Book List

The Lipan Apaches: People of Wind and Lightning by Thomas A. Britten;

A Partial Bibliography of the Apache Indians and Apacheria:
The Topic for 03-13-2010 Interview on KVOI -AM Radio, 1030, Tucson, "Voices Of The West."
UPDATED ON: 04-20-2010
A Buffalo Soldier's Story: Medal Of Honor Recipient Sergeant Thomas Boyce and His Comrades:
1864-1889: William Aleshire
In The Days of Victorio: Eve Ball;
The Warrior Apaches: Gordon C. Baldwin;
Geronimo: In His Own Words: As Told to S. M. Barrett;
Living Life's Circle: Keith Basso;
Western Apache Raiding & Warfare: Keith Basso;
Wisdom Sits In Places: Keith Basso
Portraits of the Whiteman: Keith Basso;
Historical Atlas of New Mexico: Warren A. Beck and Ynez D. Haie;
The Lipan Apaches: People of Lightning and Wind: Thomas Britten;
I Fought With Geroimo: Jason Betzinez;
New Mexico's Buffalo Soldiers: Monroe Lee Billington;
The Apache Indians: Sonia Bleeker;
On The Border With Crook: John Bourke
Adventures In The Apache Country: John Ross Brown;
The Civil War in Apacheland: Sergeant George Hand's Diary: California, Arizona, West Texas;
New Mexico:1861-1864; George Hand and Neil B. Carmony;
Victorio: Apache Warrior & Chief: Katherine Chamberlain;
The Chiricahua Apache: 1846-1876: From War To Reservation: D. C. Cole
Apache Nightmare: The Battle at Cibecue Creek: Collins;
Apache: Will Levington Comfort;
Joseph Reddeford Walker and the Arizona Adventure: Daniel Ellis Conner; University of Oklahoma Press; Norman; 1956;
Fifty Years On The Frontier: as Cowboy, Hunter, Guide, Scout, and Ranchman: James H. Cook; University of Oklahoma Press; Norman; 1923;
The Struggle For Apacheria: Volume I: Peter Cozzens (Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars: 1865-1890);
Life Among The Apaches: George Cremony;
Cabeza de Vaca: Adventures In Unknown Interior of America: Translated by Cyclone Covey;
Rimfire: Tom Diamond;
The Truth About Geronimo: Britten Davis;
Geronimo: Angie Debo;
The Southwest of John Horton Slaughter: Allen A. Erwin; The Arthur H. Clark Company, 1965; Spokane, Washington
Mountain Scouting: A Handbook For Officers and Soldiers Of The Frontier: Edward Farrow;
The Athabaskan Languages: Fernald, Platero;
Recollections of a Western Ranchman: Captain Wm. French. Vol. I & II
Geronimo: Volume II: Stories of an American Legend: Sharon MaGee Wild West Collection;
The Geronimo Campaign: Odie Faulk;
No Settlement, No Conquest: Richard Flynt;
Apaches Navahos and Spaniard: Jack Forbes;
A Biography: Geronimo: Mark L. Gardner;
Forts of New Mexico: Dale Giese;
The Apaches: Leaders, Warriors, Renegades; and Scouts:Toby Giese
Like A Brother: Granville Goodwin;
Apache Diaries: Neil Goodwin;
Apaches at War and Peace: Janos Presidio: William Griffen;
Apaches: A Handbook and Cultural Portrait: James L.Haley;
Handbook Of American Indians V: 2: North Of Mexico Part Two: Frederick Webb Hodge;
Fort Selden: 1865-1891: The Birth, Life and Death of a Frontier Fort in New Mexico: Alan Holmes;
The Apaches: Jason Hook;
Apache Land from Those Who Lived It: Keith J. Humphries;
The Apache Indians: Helge Ingstad;
A Brief History Of New Mexico: Myra Ellen Jenkins; Albert H. Schroeder;
The Place Names of New Mexico: Robert Julyan;
Mountains Of New Mexico: Robert Julyan;
Gatewood And Geronimo: Louis Kraft;
Lt. Charles Gatewood & His Apache War Memoirs: Louis Kraft;
Hembrillo: An Apache Battlefield of the Victorio War: Karl Laumbach;
Nana's Raid: Apache Warfare In Southwestern New Mexico: 1881: Stephen Lekson;
The Apache Indians: Frank Lockwood;
The People Called Apache: Thomas Mails
Ft. Bowie, Arizona: Douglas C. McChristian;
Forever Frontier: The Gila Cliff Dwellings: Elizabeth McFarland;
Trailing Geronimo: Anton Mazzonivich;
Encyclopedia Of Indian Wars: Western Battles and Skirmishes: 1850-1890: Gregory F. Michno;
Apache Life Way: Morris Opler;
Myths and Tales of the Chiricahua Apache Indians: Morris Opler;
Rock Art Symbols Of The Ancient Southwest: Alex Patterson;
Echoes of the Bugle: Phelps-Dodge Mining Corporation;
Ghosts: Kingston: Hillsboro: Bill Rakocy;
Forty Miles A Day On Beans and Hay: Don Rickey, Jr.;
New Mexico Frontier Military Place Names: Rathburn & Alexander;
Once They Moved Like The Wind: David Roberts;
Apache Voices: Sherry Robinson;
One Hundred and Three Fights and Scrimmages: The Story of General Reuben F. Bernard:
Frontier Classic Series: Don Russell;
Field Uniforms of the Indian War Army: 1866-1871: Lee A. Rutledge;
Josanie's War: Karl Schlesier;
Apache Indians: Volume IV: A Study of The Apache Indians: Vol IV and V: Albert Schroeder*
The Last Conquistador: Marc Simmons;
Massacre On The Lordsburg Road: Marc Simmons;
A Handbook Of North American Indians: Volume X: Smithsonian Institute; (Primary Contributor: Morris Opler)
Geronimo and the End of The Apache Wars: C. L. Sonnischen;
The Mescalero Apaches: C. L. Sonnischen;
Cycles Of Conquest: Edwin Spicer;
Shame And Endurance: Henrietta Stockel;
On The Bloody Road To Jesus: Henrietta Stockel;
Making Peace with Cochise: Edwin Sweeney;
Cochise: Captain Sladen: Edwin Sweeney;
Mangas Coloradas: Edwin Sweeney;
Merijildo Grijalva: Edwin Sweeney;
Apache Chronicles: John Upton Terrell;
Arizona in the '50s: Captain James H. Tevis;
Encyclopedia of Frontier Biography: Vol. I: A-F: Dan Thrapp;
Victorio and The Mimbres Apaches
: Dan Thrapp;

General Crook and the Sierra Madre Adventure: Dan Thrapp;
Juh: An Incredible Indian: Dan Thrapp;
Dateline Fort Bowie: Dan Thrapp;
The Conquest of Apacheria: Dan Thrapp;
A Compendium Of The Overland Mail Company On The South Route 1858-1861
and The Period Surrounding It: G.C. (Tom) Tompkins;
Geronimo's Surrender: The 1886 C.S. Fly Photographs:
Museum Monograph No. 8, Arizona Historical Society
Jay Van Orden;
The Spanish Frontier In North America: David J. Weber;
Life On The Rocks: One Woman's Adventures in Petroglyph Preservation: Katherine Wells;
Unpublished Manuscript: The autograph diary kept by (Apache Wars); Leonard Wood from Mar 4 to
September 27, 1886;

The Apaches: Eagles Of The Southwest: Donald E. Worcester.

Civil War: Related Subjects:
A Just And Righteous Cause: (Col.) Benjamin H. Grierson's Civil War Memoir;
Edited by Bruce J. Dinges and Shirley A. Leckie;
Grierson's Raid: Tom Lalicki;
New Mexico & Arizona Men of the California Column: Darliss Miller;
Grierson's Raids and Hatch's Sixty-Four Day March: Robert Surby;
Stone Magic Of The Ancients: James R. Kunkle;
Rock Art Symbols Of The Ancient Southwest: Alex Patterson;
Anthropology and Linguistics:
Teach Yourself Linguistics: Jane Aitchison;
The Horse the Wheel and Language: How Bronze Age Riders from The Eurasian Steppes Shaped The
Modern World: David Anthony;
Language & Species: Derek Bickerton;
Breaking The Mayan Code: Michael D. Coe;
The Peopling Of The Americas: Robinson Bonnischen & D. Gentry Steele;
In Search of The Indo-Europeans: J. P. Mallory;
Tracking and Hiking:
Grandfather: Tom Brown, Jr;
Gila Country Legend: Quentin Hulse: Nancy Coggeshall
Hiking Guide to The Gila Wilderness Area:
Hiking Guide to the Aldo Leopold Wilderness Area:
Wilderness Areas of New Mexico:
Suggested by Readers, Listeners:
The People Called Apache: Thomas Mails.